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Alana
at 1:44 3/4/2007
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i brough a playstation3 and i took it back the same day because it was so crap!someone reply xx
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Alana
at 1:42 3/4/2007
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xbox360 is so much better than playstation3!
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WHY ROGER WHY
at 10:52 24/8/2006
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ya right but oh well dont matter theres still a lotta time left fot both Systems, and the REV.
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WHY ROGER WHY
at 10:50 24/8/2006
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Im getting ps3 but if i dont like it il buy 360 later/ its just gonna be like xbox and ps2 war.Similar everything until u get to certain games and the online. Graphics are gonna be sweet for both. Hopefully sony fixes its online features and the power of the cell before launch.fortunately i have an hd tv so hopefully it has most games on 1080p =D LMFAO
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WHY ROGER WHY
at 10:40 24/8/2006
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yep yep
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anti arab power
at 6:43 4/3/2006
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alah was a pornstar
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Anonymous
at 0:8 3/3/2006
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o personally think that fps games, and and any game really where u have to aim at something, go way better on pc than console... i luv console,.. but it "in some cases" cannot add up to the real feel of fluent mouse control.
unless the NIN REV can change all that?
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Anonymous
at 0:4 3/3/2006
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xatly... pc's are usually used for evrything.. so if you have a good one.... why not play good looking games on it.. if u can afford to go with console and pc... have a ball. i know modderz "like myself" need a pc.. id probably go crazy without one.
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Anonymous
at 8:33 2/3/2006
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fat lifeless nerds only.
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13
at 6:5 2/3/2006
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Who will use his PC to play games ONLY>???
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Anonymous
at 12:35 28/2/2006
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"Consoles vs. PC
"The difference between theoretical performance and real-world performance on the CPU level is growing fast. On, say, a regular Xbox, you can get very large fractions of theoretical performance with not a whole lot of effort. The PlayStation 2 was always a mess with the multiple processors on there, but the new generations, with Cell or the Xbox 360, make it much, much worse. They can quote these incredibly high numbers of giga-flops or tera-flops or whatever, but in reality, when you do a straightforward development process on them, they’re significantly slower than a modern high-end PC."
-PCGAMER-"
Yeah that's probably true.. but what about the price?? How much do you have to pay for a PC with the same graphical capabilities as.. let's say XBOX 360, and I mean a PC that's going to have as great looking graphix as X360 in 5 years as well.. without having to upgrade it even once..
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Sony lied
at 10:31 28/2/2006
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Sony lied about their product and why do crack d**khead fanboy would support them?
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Anonymous
at 5:48 25/2/2006
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if you want facts list the shades and look outside...hard facts called "nature" or "life"
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Anonymous
at 15:39 24/2/2006
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nintendo is right afterall, I got my 360 and I'm already bored with it, just one game caught my attention and it was a three day candy.
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SonyFan
at 7:52 24/2/2006
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The only thing one has too look forward too if they get a Revolution console would have to be Metroid Prime Endless Mario cart/nintendog remakes and probably a half dozen mario lugi baseball/basketball games. No thanks. I'll get myself an Adults console Sony Playstation 3 or maybe that bug ridden xbxo360 if it ever fixes its hardware problems.
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Anonymous
at 5:45 24/2/2006
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I'm getting a revolution. -end of discution-
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Anonymous
at 20:44 23/2/2006
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your all d**ks, wait till you have the system before you talk about it
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Anonymous
at 20:42 23/2/2006
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I'm waiting for the Sega Dreamcast 9/09/99 it's almost here! I can't wait for Virtua Fighter 3.
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Anonymous
at 2:41 23/2/2006
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lol yeah .I have to agree with dog catcher.
Get a life guys ffs!
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Dog_Catcher
at 19:26 22/2/2006
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And yet somehow, life goes on....
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Anonymous
at 16:53 21/2/2006
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Consoles vs. PC
"The difference between theoretical performance and real-world performance on the CPU level is growing fast. On, say, a regular Xbox, you can get very large fractions of theoretical performance with not a whole lot of effort. The PlayStation 2 was always a mess with the multiple processors on there, but the new generations, with Cell or the Xbox 360, make it much, much worse. They can quote these incredibly high numbers of giga-flops or tera-flops or whatever, but in reality, when you do a straightforward development process on them, they’re significantly slower than a modern high-end PC."
-PCGAMER-
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Anonymous
at 15:37 21/2/2006
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OMG NINTENDO IS RIGHT AFTERALL!!! IT DOESN'T MATTER THE THE POWER OR HYPE NUT THE GAMES ITSELF!!!!
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Anonymous
at 14:10 21/2/2006
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holy crap u guys!... get outside before your skin flakes off... if you want facts look at the obvious... its not hard to know which system will be better visualy, its all up to the game developers to use what the system provides.... games could look good on both consoles... one a little bit more to offer,... but still great looking non the less.
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Roger Wilco
at 12:57 21/2/2006
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Has anyone ever heard of over-clocking a console? That would be a first! lol.
I assume teh truth that's what you mean by "ISnt there a thing called overclocking?!" a console?Can i add this? How much over-clocking would you need if it's even possible(which it more likely is not) for a PS3 to keep up pace with 10 years of CPU and GPU progress? Consiedering every year GPU speed doubles and CPU speed goes up by 1-1/2 times? Answer teh truth? You would have to over-clock the GPU inside the PS3 thats running a 550MHZ core clock speed to at least 1100mhz if not more. Then over-clock the memory clock from 1500mhz to at least 3000mhz. Remember we are talkig about 7-10 years of CPU, GPU advancement. Now that form of over-clocking(doubling clock speeds just for the GPU not even for the Cell, has never been done. Even with liquid Nitrogen!) By the time 10 years has passed you will see GPU's runing unified shaders with many more pipelines then 24 or 48 piplines. How can the PS3 keep pace? teh truth, you cannot be serious dude.
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Anonymous
at 10:36 21/2/2006
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teh truth, You're not serious right? Overclock the CPU and GPU on a console? lol. You cannot overclock a consoles GPU or CPU without having access to the bios or over-clocking tools. Like Sony or MS would ever let the user do this. Moreover, the maximum overclock theoretical rate for a GPU running on 90nm is 700-750MHZ Core Clock speed using passive cooling. Plus you only get 5-13% increase performance if your lucky depending on yields of said chipset. Still not even close enough to be as fast as THIS generation of CPU's and GPU's. Are you going to spend an extra $500 to modify your PS3 to run a water cooling setup through it? lol. Even if it's possible. However, they sell those kits for ALL GPU'S AND CPU'S. And those are stable.
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teh truth
at 5:46 21/2/2006
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O and I hope the revolution sells more than the gamecube did!! Much better than the xbox.
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teh truth
at 5:45 21/2/2006
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First of all woteva, I know the ps3 will sell loads out and will be the better all rounder. SO slag off now cos ya probly wont be in the future :).Anonymous
at 12:22 20/2/2006 ISnt there a thing called overclocking?!
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Anonymous
at 16:26 20/2/2006
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Hey.
Hey.
Don't generalize anything about "The 3 console specs".Please show me WHERE IN GOD'S NAME Nintendo has posted ANY of their specs. Oh wait, nobody has a clue to wether it's a Gamecube Clone or a PS4.
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Anonymous
at 13:12 20/2/2006
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Oh god. 7-10 years. Give me a break! In just 2 years the hardware inside Sony's new hype will be outdated. It already is for the graphic chip!
You cannot future proof a console unless you can upgrade it. And since you cannot upgrade it, it's not future proof. If you rememeber Paul, Sony also said the PS2 was future proof! lmfao. It's technically the s**ttiest console of the 3 right now hardware wise. And that was future proof? lol.
Wifi ports. Ports and other interfaces DO NOT INCREASE A SYSTEMS SPEED OR POWER. To do that, you need to change the CPU and GPU. Ports are just for add-ons like DVD rives/players. HardDrives etc. Nothing to do with CPU or GPU power. So what the hell are you talking about? How old are you buddy? Plus the Xbox360 and already has numerous ports and wifi capability. As the Revoltuion will too.
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simon
at 12:39 20/2/2006
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teh truth you moron. The only reason a PC will not be able to handle Unreal 2007 maps wil be because of poor programming by Epic software. Considering that the hardware inside a hig-end PC right now is more powerful then the PS3 WHY COULD IT NOT HANDLE IT. You Sony goofball
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Anonymous
at 12:30 20/2/2006
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One more thing. The Xbox360 can also add digital cameras and other multi-media devices. If you cared to notice ;)
And sorry, the PS3 will not produce "photo realistic" graphics running at decent speeds. Not even the mentioned hardware above can do that in real-time. If you heard what Nvidia said about the GPU inside the PS3 that "gives you those graphics" they wont be running games in 1080 with FSAA on. But a PC can do that. Even in Unreal 2007 teh truth ;)
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Anonymous
at 12:22 20/2/2006
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Paul, answer me this. How can the PS3 last 7-10 years as Sony claimed when right now the XTX1900XTX and the FX-60 CPU is more powerful then the G70 and Cell CUP inside the unreleased PS3?
Moreover, considering that the G70 is already obsolete now, with the GPU cycles every 6 months and CPU cycles the same, in 10 years the PS3 will be a paper weight.
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Anonymous
at 12:10 20/2/2006
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screw consoles PCs rule!
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Anonymous
at 12:5 20/2/2006
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f**k wasting 500 dollars on either system.
I'll take a Nintendo revolution for less than half that crap.
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vrba79
at 11:27 20/2/2006
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What "battle"?
I think it's stupid when people have to defend something they own or want to own, just for the sake of wanting to sound like some badass Bill Brasky!
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Paul Walker
at 7:34 20/2/2006
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Based on Hardware specs alone the ps3 has already won the battle. Being able to fully support linux as an operating system having built in wifi ports, hdmi ports for hidef monitors and oodles of other ports for memory cards for digital cameras i'd say just by that the console is far superior to xbox360 console. Truely one has too droOl just reading baout it. It basically is a true multimedia hub unlike xbox360.Hardcore pc users will get a ps3 just for the fact it does so much more than ypur basic gaming. Histroy tells us sony has dominated the gaming business for years and if history stands true and the hardware specs don't fail too dissapoint there truely is no reason too support the box360. Microsoft is a billion dollar business and they decided to go on the cheap and create a bugged out cheap machine. It could have been so much more as far as a simple gaming machine but it looks like they went too the cheap. Sony3 has big plans and one of them as stated over an over. We don't plan on releasing a new console for 7-10 years. There goal is to add as many ports as possible and too make the system powerful enough to create almost photo realistic graphics running at decent speeds. That is future proofing a console for sure. I say if they can pull it off and add the blueray drive sonty truely has no reason to make a new machine unlike xbox360 which has no options for alot of multimedia functionality after all its missing too many ports to be usefull as a true digital hub. Plus the fact sony on paper will release a blueray drive with the system as well as a harddrive as well as a mouse and keyboard. Too sum things up....
Stay Clean An Clear of the Xbox360
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teh truth
at 2:31 20/2/2006
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bill
at 18:14 19/2/2006
Sorry your oviously the one making the game and know how it can run on the PS3. What?! YOUR NOT MAKING THE GAME!?Then SHUT THE f**k UP, then if someone says the PEOPLE actualy MAKING it, say THIS STUFF!! DEAL WITH IT!!!!
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bill
at 18:14 19/2/2006
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teh truth, you are trying to tell us a system running a Dual FX-60 AMD chipset with two gigs of DDR2 RAM running two 7800GTX 512MEG crads or two XTX1900XTX 512MEG cards in SLI or crossfire cannot handle Unreal 2007 maps like the PS3? You're kidding right? You're trying to pull a fast one on us right? Buddy, that setup alone will run Unreal 2007 at Frame rates above 70fps at 1600x1200 or 2056+ You thnik the PS3 can do that at 1080 resolutuion WITH Full scene Anti-alaising enabled? Good luck. It can't and wont. The game will be programed like almost all the others for the PS3 in 720 resolution. With that PC setup, you can run it with 6xAA and 14xFSAA. Something the PS3 can never do.
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Anonymous
at 18:7 19/2/2006
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How do you know PS3 will rule the console wars. Also by the time the PS3 is released, the R600 and G80 will be released. Considering the fact that the R500 and R580(XTX1900XTX)is more advanced then the G70 inside the PS3, you can figure out that these NEW gpu'S WILL BE EVEN MORE POWERFUL. Also, 2 high-end GPU's runng in SLI or Crossfire will out run anything the PS3 has to offer.
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Anonymous
at 17:11 19/2/2006
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x1900 crossfire already got pc covered, already ahead of the 360.
and pc is already starting to go the route of cell technology.... cause that where its at! ps3 will rule the console wars... until the next fight.
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teh truth
at 13:44 19/2/2006
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O and before ya b***h about its playstation mag etc etc...Its one, a Interview with the peopel making it (Why would they lie?). two, its being made along side the PC so....
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teh truth
at 13:43 19/2/2006
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"With little tweaking, even Ut 2007 will looks nice in most mid-end PC... Do a search b'fore posting"Erm... Offical Playstation interview with the people making Unreal saying that some maps wont be on the pc as it'll be too much to handle...YOU go do ya research you idiot!
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Anonymous
at 10:53 19/2/2006
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Killzone was all pre-rendered df. I have no idea were you are getting your facts., It was not running in real-time
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Anonymous
at 9:4 19/2/2006
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Mouse > Playstation controller.
Bagel > XBox controller
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13
at 5:39 19/2/2006
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To 'teh truth
at 4:50 16/2/2006
Well least its proven it will do better Unreal 07 graphics than PC :). ' With little tweaking, even Ut 2007 will looks nice in most mid-end PC... Do a search b'fore posting.
Not to mention playing FPS game with a gamepad is gay.
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13
at 5:36 19/2/2006
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First of all, Sony will not suddenly change PS3's hardware spec. Why? Needs money. And lotsa money.
Honestly, all consoles are over-hype, over-hype and over-hype (Anyone still remember PS2's so call 'fluid-rendering system?'?). All my consoles are gathering dust in a corner of my home now. Starting from NES till X-box. I don't care about any 'next-gen console'. I only care about Enemy Territory: Quake War (do a google search to find what it is). Good night.
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teh truth
at 2:42 19/2/2006
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Anonymous
at 23:7 18/2/2006Your demostrating the well below average IQ of a newborn baby. Let him have the "freedom" of speech and do what all you d**kheads did with the xbox and 360 etc...support it!! Or is 360 fans that secretly scared??
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Anonymous
at 23:7 18/2/2006
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Paul Wanker, you'r demonstrating well the average IQ of PS fanboys. good job
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df
at 21:33 18/2/2006
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the so called demos like killzone2 were actaully in real time, but the frame rate was just sped up, so it can handle all the lighting, shaders, textures etc... so what they are doing is lowering a few high intensities to make it run like butta, i hope is still looks as good as they say it does.. unless the hardware has gotten better by now..
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Anonymous
at 21:16 18/2/2006
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The main hardware is the same. The GPU and Cell will not change.
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Paul Walker
at 19:42 18/2/2006
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Sony has some surprices up its sleeves. Hardware specs are changing as we speak. All of you will be impressed-even those die hard xbox360 owners will DRoOl when they see whats in store for Mankind. The next generation gaming will soon be unleashed too mankind until than save your pennies.Stay Clean an Clear of the xbox360.
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Anonymous
at 18:41 18/2/2006
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screw PS3 and 360 im gonna spend the money i would on those consoles on my PC and have an awesome gaming PC:P
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Anonymous
at 17:15 18/2/2006
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i like noodles!!!
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nobody
at 17:8 18/2/2006
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Alienwares? stuff em! buy the damn case offebay and make your own u lazy farts.
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furgy
at 15:46 18/2/2006
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ya watch everyone gang up on you and say things like... i got a freedom of speech.... and ill be like... your typing dumb ass.
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ur right
at 15:38 18/2/2006
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Anonymous
at 9:23 18/2/2006
Anti-Noob
at 23:13 17/2/2006
And I supose your right. After all, I am sure you also major in circuitry---------- Wow, so what?
Playstation 3 is still a year in development.
The specifications aren't concrete. You don't own the system.
You don't have the system.
You've never seen the system up-close. You know as much about it as any other fanboy of Sony. Don't try to pull degrees out of your ass.
-------------------------------- ha ha, this is funny.... it can all be settled by what this guy is saying.... no one will know... for all we know sony could have some new hardware changes. ithink the posts should end here... otherwise there is no point........ (of course that will never happen)
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Anonymous
at 14:16 18/2/2006
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teh truth!
at 4:2 18/2/2006 you need to learn english before you post on this forum. You're a joke and should be shot with a high caliber weapon. Websters offers a cheap english dictionary for morons like you. Please spend your rupies and get one.
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Anonymous
at 9:23 18/2/2006
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Anti-Noob
at 23:13 17/2/2006
And I supose your right. After all, I am sure you also major in circuitry---------- Wow, so what?
Playstation 3 is still a year in development.
The specifications aren't concrete. You don't own the system.
You don't have the system.
You've never seen the system up-close. You know as much about it as any other fanboy of Sony. Don't try to pull degrees out of your ass.
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teh truth!
at 4:2 18/2/2006
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haha I like how some people are pretending to be me. Enjoyin ya 360s that much eh?
Anonymous
at 20:4 16/2/2006 No you are the foolish thick piece of s**t, I said forget f**king stats and figures and all that bollox. Sony will out sell 360 and that no matter!! As its the best bulls**tter (you all say sony is doing all bulls**t PR and that! f**king read and stop being god dam c**ts!! IS that not English enough?! twat!!
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Shike
at 0:54 18/2/2006
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Yes, I remember in an interview Hideo said that the 360 too could run MGS4 if he was willing to program it. This means that in the end, the systems are transparent besides a brand and game selection. Pick one, both, or all three (or stick to your PC) and be done with it. Thank you!
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Anonymous
at 23:31 17/2/2006
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>>>burger king, where the burgers just taste better<<<
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Anti-Noob
at 23:13 17/2/2006
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And I supose your right. After all, I am sure you also major in circuitry.
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Anonymous
at 17:56 17/2/2006
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Anti-Noob
at 17:13 17/2/2006But of you course you newbie's are just going to curse uo a storm because of your own ignorants. Its sad that you people are so immature. -------------------------- Damn you are an ignorant dumbass.
You're spreading hypocrisy all over the forum like it's diarrhea. Face it with all these failing of expectations there is no way of telling how well the PS3 will run. Unless your brother works for Sony or some crazy crap like that don't say you know how well it's going to preform. Nobody here knows anything about the system beyond the specs they previewed us with.
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Anti-Noob
at 17:19 17/2/2006
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PS3's processing is very impracticle. Steve jobs himself said it was awfull, how do you expect game developers to take advantage of such a odd architecture. Imo games will look as good as the 360's at first, but down the road you will start to notice the lack of graphic quality amongst the games that are going to release.
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Anti-Noob
at 17:13 17/2/2006
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The PS3 cant do more on screen because it has 1/3 the ALU power of the 360. Sure it may have 2 TF of FPU performance but that wont mean anything unless it has a good blend of both. Did I mention the PS3 has as many if not more bottlenecks as the 360?But of you course you newbie's are just going to curse uo a storm because of your own ignorants. Bash either one of them withought knowing anything about them. Its sad that you people are so immature.
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ha blah
at 15:57 17/2/2006
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I say... if you have money than you do not have the option to be dissapointed, enjoy both worlds.... but for the less fortunate... keep fighting over your steak.
I dont know about the rest of you... but i was more impressed buy the visuals in mgs for the ps3 than what i have seen on the xbox... not to mention gears of war looks pretty darn good to.
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Arru
at 15:20 17/2/2006
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I have PC so I do not need X-cox. I will buy MS Vista near christmas for X-cox360 games, but i will buy PS3 cause I have sony 40 inch HDTV, it 'll work fine with it. I bet PS3 has better games than X-cox360 anyway.
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yonderboy
at 12:17 17/2/2006
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"So there you have it PS3 will probably be delayed in the U.S. while the experience has left Kikizo staff with a feeling of disappointment since the PS3 is unlikely to reach the level of visual quality suggested by E3 2005."
- "Duh" award of the week.
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Anonymous
at 8:48 17/2/2006
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Sony hyped the PS3 and if you read more about it, you will know that the Xbox360 will offer the same type of visuals because of that systems superior GPU.
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Anonymous
at 8:42 17/2/2006
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The x360 wont win this round. Just like it was predicted by market analysts earlier last year, MS will win the NEXT round on the console war. The 2009/2010 round i suppose
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Anonymous
at 8:28 17/2/2006
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when games are finally multi-threaded from the ground up, then morons can claim the Xbox360 has reached its full potential. Until then, you Sony fanboys have no clue
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Anonymous
at 8:17 17/2/2006
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So many Sony fanboys, so few bullets
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arab power
at 7:44 17/2/2006
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Ahahahaaa, we have already outsmarted the americans, damn its good to be an arab.
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here we are!
at 22:54 16/2/2006
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pc has already beaten the consoles... x1900 dubbed, damn its good to be a gamer!
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teh truth
at 22:51 16/2/2006
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no i am arab, i like puter games.. like quake 3 is fun and graphics are nice within lighting.
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Anonymous
at 21:16 16/2/2006
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teh truth do you speak english?
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ples
at 20:51 16/2/2006
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dreamcast sucked, there were only 2 hit games and they also sucked.... now the sega master system ooh i just got a little wet in my pants
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teh truth
at 20:49 16/2/2006
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i agree it delivered well, i geuss im gunna have to go with ps3
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Anonymous
at 20:4 16/2/2006
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teh truth
at 14:39 16/2/2006 you have to be the most foolish person on this site. What the hell does sales have to do with the quality of a console system? The PS2 sold more then any other system, however it was the crappiest of the 3.
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GXR
at 17:30 16/2/2006
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Yeah! Dreamcast PWNEDz u all..b***hes..
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yeah
at 15:41 16/2/2006
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i think we should all go back to 8bit... everyone was alot happier then.
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Ardol Samsonite
at 15:6 16/2/2006
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dreamcast owns you all
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teh truth
at 14:39 16/2/2006
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Ok i cant be botherd to explain things to some of the people (especialy you choke boy)!But I'll repeat...
"Ok Ok, now lets forget all stats and figures and look at it this way...
From what everyone slags off eachother saying... the sales represent the best bullsh**ter... Sony ftw then :) End of... "
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Hal2000
at 12:0 16/2/2006
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This is just another Sony wind bag press annoucement of bulls**t. Stupid fanboys still have not figured that out since Sony pulled the same crap with the PS2 and PSP? f**king gullible dumbasses.
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etiennedupont
at 9:33 16/2/2006
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europe will be the last ones to have it ????okay !
so i won't buy this peace of useless stuffs !
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dan
at 9:11 16/2/2006
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I will belive it when i see it... sony lies too much so does this site...
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Anonymous
at 8:8 16/2/2006
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Thats a quote from the article. Sony is great at one thing. Hype and PR....
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Anonymous
at 8:7 16/2/2006
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Sony's showings of PS3 to date have been seriously sexy. But the reality, while still impressive, is nowhere near the leap beyond Xbox 360 Sony wants you to believe, and it seems many projects are still at an early enough stage for things to start getting a little worrying.
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Anonymous
at 7:35 16/2/2006
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flaw you actually think the PS3 wont have frame rate issues? lol. Buddy the writing is already on the wall for that system. Nvidia just said it will have a hard time running games at 1080 resolution when a game is bandwaidth intensive and pixel shader intensive. Guess what? Killzone and MGS4 are all of these. So you wont see those games running 1080. Nor using FSAA unless its running 720.
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Anonymous
at 7:20 16/2/2006
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teh truth when the PS3 can run the unreal 3 engine at a constant 60fps with FSAA and Ansiotropic filtering enabled at its so called maximum resolution of 1080 then i will be impressed. Guess what? The PS3 can't do that. Nor can it support HDR(high dynamic lighting) with Anti-alaising at the same time. Reason? Because the GPU inside the PS3,the G70 does not have that feature. But the R500 does. Just ask Nvidia. They let the cat out of the bag on resoultion capabilities for the PS3. You might get a few games using 1080, the rest 720 because the performance hit on the PS3 will be too great. Especially if game makers put anti-alaising in their games!
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Anonymous
at 6:10 16/2/2006
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Shadow of Collus - PS2 can't handle bosses without choking.
Resident Evil 4 - PS2 can't handle zombie animations without choking.
God of War - PS2 can't handle fights without choking.It's an AWFUL system.
Any large projects it tries to tackle it flops on. That little Gamecube could out-run the PS2 for Resident Evil 4 (And they owned the title first).
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teh truth
at 4:53 16/2/2006
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Ok Ok, now lets forget all stats and figures and look at it this way...From what everyone slags off eachother saying... the sales represent the best bullsh**ter... Sony ftw then :) End of...
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teh truth
at 4:50 16/2/2006
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PS2 has outdone Xbox. Ico? MGS3?Resi 4? Shadow of the Collus? God of War? Secondly all I said was, why does it matter if it can either do Killzone 2 or MGS4, cos either one is as good as the other. Well least its proven it will do better Unreal 07 graphics than PC :).
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Dukegodtezza
at 2:57 16/2/2006
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all 3 will be floggin the same games butt only 1 will have halo 3 and xbox live. sux it fanboys
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oreo
at 0:49 16/2/2006
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most the 360 fans sound like assholes to me, why not just enjoy both the worlds and make it easier on yourselvs
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yiyee
at 0:36 16/2/2006
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u said it brutha!, or sista! or muda fuka!
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flaw
at 0:28 16/2/2006
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i repeat... extreme framerate loss on the 360 while playing full auto... my pc can do better than that. i cant wait till the ps3 launches and all you f**kers shut your whining b***h ass mouth... you know your gunna buy it. who cares if it was over hyped doesnt mean its gunna blow, i dont see no hd dvd now do I.
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Anonymous
at 21:36 15/2/2006
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"which means all the ps3 has to do is add its gpu to the works and can we say safely wins by a landslide graphicaly"Whomever said this is a f ucking tool. The PS3 has the gpu already inside working with the Cell you dumbass! And from early results from this report and a few others, the graphics are essitiantly not winning by a "landslide" It cannot even run games as Nvidia stated in their hyped 1080 resolution with FSAA on! Pre-rendered video and games running in realtime are totally different asshole. That's what you call "winning by a landslide"?? Dumbass get real.
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Roger Wilco
at 20:57 15/2/2006
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"It cannot even do full Anti-alaising with the G70 inside the PS3 without performance degradation. That's next generation?"No it's not next generation. It's P.R. bulls**t from Sony
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Anonymous
at 20:8 15/2/2006
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A dual FX-60 AMD chipset is faster then the Cell CPU inside the PS3, yet the FX-60 cannot render 3d animation for games with all features enabled alone with playable frame rates that are acceptable. It has to have a dedicated GPU working with it. The way Sony and IBM marketed the Cell CPU was that it could do all that without a seperate GPU. It cannot as proven. It cannot even do full Anti-alaising with the G70 inside the PS3 without performance degradation. That's next generation?
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Anonymous
at 19:44 15/2/2006
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You got it ha. Denile is a b itch especially when Sony hypes their products and slowly but surely details are leaked out that it is not the sysyem it's cracked up to be...2-3 times more powerful then the xbox360? RIGHHHHHT. For every 360 fanboy on here, you have 3 Sony fanboys :P
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jermaine
at 19:39 15/2/2006
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and plus its gonna be like psp sales to ds, ds beating psp in sales.
so revolution will be like ds and beat psp sales
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jermaine
at 19:38 15/2/2006
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what ever ps3 wont have a boat load of better graphics than revolution, it will be good between ps3 and rev.
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ha
at 19:23 15/2/2006
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looks like we have more 360 fanboyz than anything, denile is a b***h aint it?!
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simon
at 18:59 15/2/2006
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I have to agree with some here. You have some fools here stating that the PS3 will have vastly superior visuals etc. The system is not even out! Now you have this story telling us with some degree of proof that don't expect the PS3 to be all to end all for consoles over the Xbox360. And he explains why. Plus the fact that he has seen it runningand operated it adds credibility to his research and story. Then i am reading some of these posts here from obvious fanboys of Sony stating they seen the cell running etc. Like Anonymous below has stated..give us proof not your own claims. If Cell is so great, why can't the PS3 run all their games in 1080 format? Nvidia has stated that it can't at playable frame rates...Lets not even start about Anti-Alaising at that resoltuion. Not even possible.
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Anonymous
at 18:39 15/2/2006
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Squall, you must work for MS and ATI to know that the Xbox360 is showing what it can fully do? Amazing. The system has been out for just 3 months now and it's already showing all it's capabilities as you claim...WITH NO PROOF? Would not a console show it's capabilities by games? That's the test right? And considering that only 30+ games are out for the Xbox360 right now in it's 1st generation, would this self proclaimed conclusion of yours with no PROOF be a bit premature? You think? You have just been branded a Sony fanboy
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Anonymous
at 18:7 15/2/2006
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This is like politics.
"I will do ___ for our nation!"
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peter
at 16:57 15/2/2006
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It's not the fact that the PS3 is taking too long. It's the fact that once again Sony has hyped a product to be more then what it is. Like the PS2 and PSP. And the real sad part about it is how so many are falling for it...AGAIN. This article proves this fully how the PS3 is far from what Sony is claiming it will be. Simple point being, if Cell was so effiecint and powerful as they claim, then why did Sony waste extra money and silicon on a GPU from Nivida when original plans for the PS3 just incorporated the Cell to do all rendering and calculations? We all know the answer to that ;)
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Anonymous
at 14:48 15/2/2006
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can anyone think outside of their own perception.
why do you think the ps3 is taking so long, sony's goal is to beat the 360, so with new technology... sony is waiting so it can be stable.
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ttlk
at 14:32 15/2/2006
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I laugh at all you Sony fanboys. I have read the full article not just the partsi want to hear. The PS3 is major hyped for it's launch..the same way the Ps2 HAD BEEN. i WILL BELIEVE THIS ARTICLE THAT HAD FIRST HAND ACCESS TO THE DEV KITS AND PS3 RUNNING IN REALTIME TO YOU 12 YEAR OLD FANBOYS CLAIMING THE OPPSOITE WHEN YOU NEVER SEEN ONE PS3 RUN FOR YOURSELF. You Sony fans are sad.
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Anonymous
at 14:8 15/2/2006
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So we should totally dismiss this artilce and the researcher/journalist who had first hand access to the PS3 and has seen it in action and tells us that don't expect the system to be any different then the Xbox360?is this on
at 13:23 15/2/2006 Any cpu can display stunning visuals. The jkey is running those visuals in REAL-TIME. The cell cannot do that without a dedicated GPU as seen. And even with that, this researcher WHO HAD ACCESS TO THE PS3 has said you will see very little difference between the 2 systems.
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Guruboy
at 14:2 15/2/2006
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amen Squall, Finally some not stupid people who just say the other side sucks.Don't forget, we're going to see Cell in IBM's Blade server even before the PS3 is out.
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Anonymous
at 13:59 15/2/2006
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Anonymous
at 13:40 15/2/2006Nobody cares about you.
Teenager angst isn't wanted in this discussion. Go slit your wrists
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Anonymous
at 13:40 15/2/2006
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i totaly agree with sqall
NOW SHUT UP ALL OF YOU!
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Squall-Loire
at 13:30 15/2/2006
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indicated? perhaps i mean incident....
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Squall-Loire
at 13:29 15/2/2006
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A message to both sides of the XBox360 vs. PS3 debate.The XBox360 is already displaying what all of its hardware can do, while most of the PS3's architecture is resting dormant.
The CELL chip Sony has been working on since '98 (of which the PS3 contains 8) is a technological revolution. It's benchmarks are eye-bleedingly fantastic in an off-the-usual-scale way. Blu-Ray, too is an amazing bit of technology thats been in the works for the same amount of time. (Source: CTM/MCV Trade Magazines, September 1998) Neither of these new technologies can truly be experienced until they are used in the development process as well as the end product. I play on the 360 all the time, and it's an impressive improvement on the XBox, and a good jump ahead of the PS2, but frankly I don't think it's got enough power to last to the end of 2007) Guruboy is right on the Alienware thing btw, and Alienware cases are ugly too. Just wait though... 2006/7 should see Sony Cell Chips in Home PCs too. What would be better, though, is for Sony to sell the technology so as to avoid a Betamax-style indicated.
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is this on
at 13:23 15/2/2006
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you know, people have doubts, i also have seen the cell processor working, look around its not that hard to find.
they were running stunning graphics, physics and particle effects on the cell processor alone. now 360 can run the same graphics and the works using full hardware support... which means all the ps3 has to do is add its gpu to the works and can we say safely wins by a landslide graphicaly, if anyone doubts that the ps3 will be that much different than the 360... get some reading glasses and do your homework!.
not a fan boy... researching this stuff is my job.
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Guruboy
at 12:45 15/2/2006
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also at Anonymous at 7:38 15/2/2006: Alienware is a case...just a case and a name. For $5000 there you can't get what $2500 can get if you build your own system.
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Guruboy
at 12:44 15/2/2006
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There was some disappointing news in this article, but it certainly doesn't mean PS3 sucks, or that Sony is a bunch of liars. X360 and PS3 will both have bumpy starts, but will eventually get to the amazing visuals shown in the demo videos. Anonymous at 7:38 15/2/2006: Have you ever heard of this cool thing called the Cell Processor?
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Anonymous
at 11:59 15/2/2006
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Holy s**t did this release date get pushed back?
I was under the impression PS3 would be out in the Summer of 06 or Fall.-------- Hilarious, they can't meet their expectations. So far the only one who HASN'T failed their "Godly" expectations is NINTENDO (Because they haven't given us anything). So I'm guessing Nintendo will be a better buy. God, what a failure for both the 360 and PS3. Once again they fail to meet standards. Let me guess, the PS3 can't run RE5?
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High Plains Drifter
at 8:16 15/2/2006
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Ya Anonymous below..that moron 12 year old Sony fanboy...dude
at 0:26 15/2/2006 did. Gullible like the fool he is. He believes anything Sony spews. What a gimp he is.
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Anonymous
at 7:38 15/2/2006
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Did anyone actually believe what Sony was saying that the PS3 could pruduce Killzone visuals in real time at 40-60fps at 1080 HD resolutions??? LMFAO!!!!! A $5000 Alienware51 SLI or CrossFire system cannot even do that! LMFAO.
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Anonymous
at 7:28 15/2/2006
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i cant post anything long
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Anonymous
at 7:26 15/2/2006
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teh truth...sorry, they say "near enough" for MSG4. Far from what Sony said themselves. And if you read the whole article, it also says the Xbox360 can do the same types of effect as both sustems are very close.
"i can promise that the 360 will not be able to run a game that looks as good as mgs on the ps3."So are you the amazing Kreskin? You can see into the fututre? The same why Sony fanboys said the PS2 could outperform the Xbox? We all know how that turned out ;) See a Sony hype pattern here. I find it real amusing that Sony fanboys judge the Xbox360 on it's launch titles and 1st generation software, yet they never do the same for The Sony Playstation? That's call hypocrascy.
And if you read the article, you would have seen that they have said, PS3 launch titles will look the same as XBOX360's launch and 1st generation software. Funny how you fanboys did not read that. Or should i say, you read what you want to see. Hear what you want to hear.
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Anonymous
at 7:25 15/2/2006
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i cant post much words
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Anonymous
at 7:17 15/2/2006
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why cant post long
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Anonymous
at 7:4 15/2/2006
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teh truhth, they say "it might do MSG graphics. And no way for Killzone. I think everyone knew this anyways. At least people with half a brain unlike that idiot dude below who cliams he seen cell up and running when its not even in mass production. Goof. All systems will look the same considering the hardware is almost identicle in both systems. And cell alone cannot perform heavy 3d calculations as a dedicated GPU, the very reason Sony changed it's plans to use a Nvidia chipset. They originally had the cell to do everything. It was not fast enough to do it.
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teh truth
at 5:17 15/2/2006
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Now, Why is it, that they SAY (if ya read the full thing) it wont do Killzone 2 graphics, but it will do MGS4 graphics?!
Why is it that Killzone 2 didnt look that much better than MGS4?! (So killzone was more action packed...So?). Both Vids looked the same, if not, the diffrence is minor and if anything to go by, Id trust in Hideo more than anything. Either way its good news!
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GraZC
at 4:2 15/2/2006
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Thats most likely because Nintendo dont need to hype their console up since we know what to expect. Cartoon colours, squeeky voices and childish games.If Nintendo put their mind to it, i can imagine they could whoop both Sony and Microsoft by simply creating amazing games, and not re-releasing the same stuff over and over. Nostalga is great, but its what, like been 5 different versions upto now?
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Anonymous
at 2:59 15/2/2006
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Yes, only Nintendo does not give out any BS-specs!
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Anonymous
at 2:59 15/2/2006
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No-one trusts SONY anyway due to the CD scandals and their insistence on proprietary everything... They have lost consumers in their electronics depts and they are about to lose some more with PS3
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NO
at 1:28 15/2/2006
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ya, ya Everyone except the fanboys was expecting this. No s**t the PS3 cant do KileZone FMV quality. Its NOT POSSIBLE.
As stated below, the best PC's with 2000+ dollars of equipement can't do it, so no 500$ consol will.Sony has always FILLED consumers with bulls**t.
The Xbox 360, PS3 and Revolution are all next gen; and will all have SIMILAR graphics... Nintendo was just the only one not to lie about it. (as usual)
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dude
at 0:26 15/2/2006
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ive seen the cell proscesor alone out perform most of what the 360 can only handle with full hardware support... which means ps3 will blow it out of the water.... so do not give me this s**t. this means more of everything on one screen... damn u fan boys piss me off, i own an xbox360 and i was very disapointed in the performance, sony has the upper hand on making better what the 360 did not. i can promise you that the 360 will not be able to run a game that looks as good as mgs on the ps3.
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Anonymous
at 22:57 14/2/2006
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hoebag, your so right. However, blame this flaming on Sony's P.R. machine and their false hype. No one is truely judging the system, just judging Sony and it's apparent lies about the systems power..claiming it is twice as powerful as the Xbox360. Sony claimed this. And now it's been proven from dev kits and hardware, that this is not so. Not even close.
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hoebag
at 22:41 14/2/2006
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wow... theres not even a retail anything of ps3 and "rumors" and "hints" are sparking ppl to speculate this much? hold on until ps3 is OUT to judge it...god your all douches.
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gameboy
at 22:10 14/2/2006
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Here's my question to the Sony fanboys: How do you expect the PS3 to run games like MGS4 and Killzone in real-time(that they made or claim looks better then F.E.A.R)with good frame rates,when a PC running Dual FX-60 cpu's and TWO 7800GTX 512 cards or TWO XTX1900XTX GPU'S cannot run F.E.A.R at 1600x1200 with all the eye candy on at frame rates above 60? Answer? The PS3 can't. The GPU inside the PS3 as well as the cell is not as fast as a FX-60 or those GPU's.
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Anonymous
at 21:47 14/2/2006
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"But our guide adds: "Cell is weird and difficult to work with... coding has progressed with high speeds and paper specs in mind, it's one of the reasons framerate specs aren't met yet. We've been anti-aliasing through software which also means a performance hit, although the 720p upscaling minimises that problem a bit."And this ladies is the crock of the battle. The PS3 will always take a performance hit when any of it's games use anti-alaising. Wether in software or hardware. In otherwords, getting rid of those jaggies to make the images look smoother and more realistic. Now this is where the Xbox360 has a huge advantage. That embedded DRAM on the GPU of the R500? That allows FREE use of anti-alaising. In lamen terms. No performance hit when used. Nice feature when running at high resolutions. Something Sony never incorporated on the PS3. Or Nvidia.
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Anonymous
at 21:39 14/2/2006
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"Based on what we've seen and played, launch software will look like nice Xbox 360 material - Dead or Alive 4, Gears of War. The main issue now is when is this "launch" actually going to happen?"This is where i laugh. Reason? Because when the PS3 is launched, the Xbox360 will already be producing 2nd generation titles with more experience to utilize that system. Also, with that satement, PS3 launch titles will look like Xbox launch titles or xbox360 1st generation titles.
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Anonymous
at 21:39 14/2/2006
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you put your hand into fire.. burn it, maybe say "OUCH"a moral to this story. just as Sony lied about PS2, it lies about PS3
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roger
at 21:31 14/2/2006
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"Based on what we've now played for ourselves, we can answer a question we all asked back at E3 2005. Does PS3 really look like the Killzone trailer? No way. Does it look like Metal Gear Solid 4? Sure, near enough,"That's from the kikizo site. Read the whole article. Both systems and probable the Revolution will all offer the saem amount of visuals as each other. I love the "near enough" line for MGS4. LOL. Which translate to..it wil not look like that and run at good frame rates. Read the whole thing. This is Sony hype at it's finest. Again like others have said.
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irucremmi
at 21:22 14/2/2006
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I LOVE PS 3 ... I LOVE XBOX 360 ... I LOVE PC.... I LOVE U !!!! f**k u ^ _ ^
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sam i am
at 21:16 14/2/2006
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"if that mgs vid i saw was really running off of ps3 hardware... than 360 bites the dust..."Too bad that was pre-rendered and not running in full time like al lthe other demos at E3 on the PS3 hardware. Killzone included. You can make a pre-rendered video on the Game-Cube or Original xbox that looks the same. Only when the game is released and it looks exactly the same as that video running at 50-60fps, then i will be impressed. Until then, more Sony hype and P.R. crap
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Anonymous
at 21:8 14/2/2006
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Doom, i will go by what developers have said before, developers not on the payroll of Sony. That the Cell CPU inside the PS3 will be more difficult to create games for then the XBOX360. And all this Sony hype? Have we not seen this hype crap before from them with the PS2 and PSP? When will these 12 year old fanboys ever learn
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Doom
at 20:34 14/2/2006
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Right so first of all MG told us the PS3 was hard to make games on, then they told us it was easy, now they're telling us its hard again...
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Anonymous
at 20:27 14/2/2006
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Considering the GPU inside these systems will do all the graphical work and calculations,both the xbxox360 and PS3 will basically be the same as they are both running GPU's that are almost equal in power...The R500 and the G70
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Anonymous
at 20:12 14/2/2006
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How do you figure the ps3 wil be better in the long run when the XBOX360 is still in it's first generation??? Developers have not even fully tapped into that system yet....
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Anonymous
at 20:0 14/2/2006
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ps3 is still better in the long run, not that much.... hype is everything, other sales would be nill.
if that mgs vid i saw was really running off of ps3 hardware... than 360 bites the dust... 360 lost (bad) framerate in full auto... which is a disappointment (nextgen my ass), i still say ps3 is gunna take the throne....... with the excpetion of the release date, PC will take the course until launch.
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rOnaldinho
at 18:45 14/2/2006
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If they are using an OpenGL version for PS3 then it should b OK in the long run. What I hate is all the lies SONY told us in the process. Boy I would rather this Next-generation war was over...
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hah
at 17:51 14/2/2006
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look at you xbox bummers
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Oath
at 15:27 14/2/2006
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PS3 was/is overhyped so much....more than the x360, thats sony's tactic, they know that PS3 and X360 are equal they both have their advantages and disadvantages yet...they'll make all these stupid claims that it can do so much more than the X360 just so you can buy their console as X360 has a headstart in the market...Sony's just jealous........
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Anonymous
at 14:59 14/2/2006
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did OMG died? good
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lol
at 14:34 14/2/2006
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Kikizo is gay.
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