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at 12:54 26/6/2004
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GrenadeTester, why the f**k did you buy a f**king 64 bit!? Makes me laugh. Did you know that games are made for 32 bits? Hl2, Doom2, EverQuest2,... Are made for 32 bits. That means that the informations from the games cannot go more than a certain speed. Games for 64 bits will AVENTUALLY comme out, but by the time they will... your computer will worth ALOT less then what you've just paid. Have fun anyways. LOL!!!
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GrenadeTester
at 14:4 24/6/2004
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I think this struggle is shapping up great! I just ordered an AMD 64 bit 3000+ and Asus mobo, can't wait for the next generation...
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Anonymous
at 4:24 22/6/2004
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~see hl2 only requires a 2000mhz p4 or a 2000+ athlon. So why the hell do people need a 3800+ Athlon64?~have u ever seen a game run on its minimum specs? was runnin farcry on a 1ghz P3 wif 384Mb ram and a gf2 MX400, needless 2 say i only got about 2fps, ppl get high end PCs coz they want 2 have the best and brag, let em waste there money it aint urs after all
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Anonymous
at 4:20 22/6/2004
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Anonymous at 8:19 21/6/2004 ooh yea i got a question for u peeps. If i get a duel proceeser motherboard can i put 1 chip in for now and add another one later do do i need 2 chips to run the mother board. cuz if i'm plannin on doing that i'll have to pay alot of $$$ and i don't feel like saving up. So i'll buy the duel procceser board and 1 3800+. Then can i add another 3800+ or do i need both to make the motherboard work? earlier AMD dual cpu mobo ran with 1 cpu so i dont c y i wont now, should run fine with 1 but ill get more info 4 ya
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Goldenmidas
at 3:38 22/6/2004
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YEAH!!!! Cool move AMD! I like more AMD than Intel, I had K6-2 earlier, and now I bought Athlon64 3200+ and Epox motherboard! This feels right, AMD is leading on future too! Intel sucks!
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Bill's mother
at 18:38 21/6/2004
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Bill Gates
at 18:26 21/6/2004
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CYbrosis7
at 18:8 21/6/2004
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If only the ATI and Nvidia were like this and were not 2 busy strangling each other lol
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Anonymous
at 14:32 21/6/2004
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It has been obvious for a long time that Intel has been on the back foot. Intel have the Monopoly and have been producing the Industrial standard until recently. True, the Intel Extreem edition has overtaken the standard AMD 64 in performance, but this is expected. For those that know anything about the Engineering of Electronics know that the focus of AMD is on the 64bit and will outperform is this area, whereas because Intel are still 32bit they will obviously outperform rivals here. With the new arrival of the 64bit operating XP system, it is very obvious to see that the 64BIT will be the Max choice for businesses for both security and power and therefore Intel will lose a significant proportion of its market on this FACT. Overclockers, simply look at the small performance increase of clock speed, but i will tell you now that even if you were to overclock a Pentium 4 extreem to 5 gig, it still would not have the same value or enhancements that 64Bit machines can offer. Intel simply offer less bang for buck, and with this latest revelation, shows that they are even on the back foot. Some majour industrial companys have made serious complaints against INTEL already concerning the Copy of some of the AMD technology intergrating the 64Bit campatability of the Chip. Multi-working applications (single applications that require many different modules to run) will have a significant increase in performance (50-60%) and games will benefit from the Graphical enhancements to the Chips, that will share the load of the FPU which is all important for Graphical and game calculations, so expect increases of 30-40% in Very graphic intensive games. The majour advantage for Games and other NETWORKING applications is the ability to run almost exclusively the Network on one side of the DIE (along with other slower programs) and a game running on mainly 1 side and the FPU of the other, this will prove a big bonus to all users and gamers. Overclockers are simply not the y d
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^Ob-Shaky
at 14:12 21/6/2004
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Bah... and the people will talk about the cpu's they cant afford to have...The people here that are saying Intel sucks/owns is based on the CPU they have on their machine that I so sure its like 1/4 of the power of the one its going out now... Poor bastards who defend their CPU maker for just having their product on their PC... Let me tell yo something, the company you try so hard to justify and defend is the one that is ruining your wallet selling a product that in a couple months willget the price drop... People that make the sort of upgrade, from 3.0 to 3.2, are the saddest, stupidiest, lameiest motherf**kers around and you should know better at the time of making a CPU company rich with youe hard earned cash or your momma and pappa hard earned cash... What I say? f**k Intel, f**k AMD and their $1000 new CPUs... Ill make the right desition and check reviews, prices, overclock capabilities and will buy what I think fit my gaming necesities... No wonder my gaming rig, AMDXP2500,512pc32000, Ati9800pro is better in benchmarks than a lot of my friends Intel 3.2,gig of ram, nvidiafx5900 etc... And no. I dont buy looking at a brand, I just buy what will work for me and will get the most out of it...
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Anonymous
at 8:19 21/6/2004
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ooh yea i got a question for u peeps. If i get a duel proceeser motherboardcan i put 1 chip in for now and add another one later do do i need 2 chips to run the mother board. cuz if i'm plannin on doing that i'll have to pay alot of $$$ and i don't feel like saving up. So i'll buy the duel procceser board and 1 3800+. Then can i add another 3800+ or do i need both to make the motherboard work?
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Anonymous
at 8:16 21/6/2004
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see hl2 only requires a 2000mhz p4 or a 2000+ athlon. So why the hell do people need a 3800+ Athlon64? but the sad thing is that i'm getting duel mother board with 2 3800+ chips lol even thou i won't ever need that much power. I just don't feel like upgrading in 3 years. I think that that combo would last me atleast 5-8 good years.
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lord-SMX
at 8:10 21/6/2004
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umm when are we ever gonna truely use a 4gHz chip? Half-Life 2: The minimum system spec is currently targeted at a 700 MHz PC with 128 MB RAM and a DX6-level video card, eg: TNT2 etc, meaning you won't need a supercomputer to run Half-Life 2 but don't expect to see reflective water,dynamic shadows and bump-mapped textures. The game running at reasonable detail eg: 25/40 fps, requires a 1600Mhz cpu, 256 mb ram, GeForce4 Ti or Ati Radeon card. In real life you need the best from a new game so I would recommend a 2000 cpu, or higher 512 mb ram or higher, GeForce4 Ti4800 128 ddr or ATI Radeon 9600 pro. IF you've got the money ATI Radeon 9800 pro. or Geforce FX5900 ultra The more power the better but not essential with this game.
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AMD
at 1:38 21/6/2004
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It has been obvious for a long time that Intel has been on the back foot. Intel have the Monopoly and have been producing the Industrial standard until recently. True, the Intel Extreem edition has overtaken the standard AMD 64 in performance, but this is expected. For those that know anything about the Engineering of Electronics know that the focus of AMD is on the 64bit and will outperform is this area, whereas because Intel are still 32bit they will obviously outperform rivals here. With the new arrival of the 64bit operating XP system, it is very obvious to see that the 64BIT will be the Max choice for businesses for both security and power and therefore Intel will lose a significant proportion of its market on this FACT. Overclockers, simply look at the small performance increase of clock speed, but i will tell you now that even if you were to overclock a Pentium 4 extreem to 5 gig, it still would not have the same value or enhancements that 64Bit machines can offer. Intel simply offer less bang for buck, and with this latest revelation, shows that they are even on the back foot. Some majour industrial companys have made serious complaints against INTEL already concerning the Copy of some of the AMD technology intergrating the 64Bit campatability of the Chip. Multi-working applications (single applications that require many different modules to run) will have a significant increase in performance (50-60%) and games will benefit from the Graphical enhancements to the Chips, that will share the load of the FPU which is all important for Graphical and game calculations, so expect increases of 30-40% in Very graphic intensive games. The majour advantage for Games and other NETWORKING applications is the ability to run almost exclusively the Network on one side of the DIE (along with other slower programs) and a game running on mainly 1 side and the FPU of the other, this will prove a big bonus to all users and gamers. Overclockers are simply not the
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Anonymous
at 0:58 21/6/2004
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blackhawk is a retard
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Anonymous
at 22:46 20/6/2004
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btw you can run an intel chip at around 5 ghz with liquid nitrogen and the 2.6 ghz pentium 4 c processor can be overclocked to 3.3 with the stock fan. :)
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Anonymous
at 22:41 20/6/2004
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who cares if amd brings out a new processor in 2005. The x800 graphics card will still have a better performance. :)
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Anonymous
at 22:36 20/6/2004
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why you guys would be bragging about this. most of you won't own this chip when it comes out unless your IT and making a new server.I don't care which is better i care about how cheap it is. why i use amd cpu. if i wanted quality and had tons of money ill go mac.
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blackhawk
at 22:16 20/6/2004
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woops i ment *intel* lmao
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blackhawk
at 22:0 20/6/2004
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well i have heard from a friend that tests expermental chips.well anyways they got a new chip from intel that has a core speed of 8.00 ghz wow!!!.also he said the chip works flawlessly and has had it for about 2 months.but for the sad news the chip wont be out till like 2006-2008 because itels just gona bump up the clocks to make MONEY THATS WHY INTEL SUCKS. i have always been a AMD fan cheap performace yeah!!! i think itel is crap i mean 3.2ghz 800mhz fsb beaten by 2.2 ghz 400mhz fsb.itels is a bunch of bs lmao. as for dual cores i think it will act like one core and gain like 30-55% in performace kinda like intels HyperTreding crap lol. as for nvidia i love there older cards but the newer ones are crap kina like itel.i own a ge-force2 ultra and it still plays newer games on low settings at like 30fps. but i will go with the gfx king witch is ATI duh!!
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at 17:6 20/6/2004
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Anonymous
at 17:3 20/6/2004
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I just gotta have that intel XE3 processor that will be released next year!
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at 16:53 20/6/2004
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at 16:50 20/6/2004
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Vic
at 16:41 20/6/2004
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Just waiting for the poporon core!
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pewa
at 16:40 20/6/2004
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lol. nothings better than a light based chip. sitting in front of a military computer with 50GHz!!! wow its fast!
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stfu
at 12:37 20/6/2004
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damn. somce of you guys are real idiots.I myself am an Intel owner. But, I admit AMD has been in the lead for quite a while. And please stop posting if all you have to say is "INTEL SUX0RZ or AMD OwNz Y0U"
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ya!
at 11:36 20/6/2004
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AMDxp + ASUS Mother's + ATI = GOD All to say that there's hope for the humain race to clone. GO AMD!
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Anonymous
at 10:39 20/6/2004
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just go get custom hardware made. It's better and faster. I have a 8000GHZ cpu.
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at 7:44 20/6/2004
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at 3:43 20/6/2004
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AMD+ATI=Good, and the future of gamers Intel+Nvidia=crap, and onely for lame idiots with too much money.
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Ronald Reagan
at 0:18 20/6/2004
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AMD CPU + ATI Video Card Ownz all Enuff said....
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omosa
at 23:33 19/6/2004
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oh my god the idiots who think Intel will go out of business are f**ken morons!!! and let us wait and see how good PCI-X is before we start jumping on band wagons...
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Anonymous
at 20:12 19/6/2004
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intels going to go out of business no one wants an inferior cpu
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at 11:13 19/6/2004
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at 6:48 19/6/2004
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matriXBOXsucks
at 2:8 19/6/2004
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yep...dL that @ www.shoveitupthatazz.com. Intel? LOL...they remind me of Microsoft...claiming this and claiming that...LOL...and look where the XBOX2's headed: down the drain. lol b!tch!
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at 21:53 18/6/2004
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Anonymous
at 11:36 18/6/2004
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anonymous @ 2:47 ? What will happen ? HT is really great, but only gives like 30% max boost in certain apps ( like 3d ). SO what will happen ? You need A FECKING HUGE COOLER !
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Anonymous
at 7:7 18/6/2004
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To all AMD buyers...I pity u all... Because AMD released so many products,it is impossible to upgrade everytime,eg. from 32bit to 64bit,then Dual processors..ok it is a great move but what about the users? Everytime we want to upgrade we must consider changing the motherboard as well..I do not have more money,I'll stick with the Athlon,it costs me almost 1000dollars ok!
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Anonymous
at 2:47 18/6/2004
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I'd Like to buy a Dual processor Motherboard with 2 DualCore Pentum processors with hyper-threading enabled ,,, WHAT WiLL HAPPEN !!! 8 PROCESSORS !! xD
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at 0:18 18/6/2004
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I have built many machines, unlike these fagget punks that calim they have, but there is nothing like a AMD chip. Intel chips suck now, and will probably continue the suckage.
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Anonymous
at 22:14 17/6/2004
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i like intel processors simply because they dont burn out like my old AMD's. errrbody is a fanboy!!mayb ur OLD amd did but the new ones dont heat up, yea they can get 2 60degress celsuis but intel does the same, not 2 mention look at the size of the heatsinks the amd is 2x smaller, stuck an intel 1 on my AMD it the cpu dropped to 40degrees not a fanboy, am now gettin an intel for my video editing, AMD remains ym gamin machine
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Local_Kid
at 21:22 17/6/2004
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First posters shit me, no one gives a shit if you post first, just shows the maturity of the people who post on mega games.
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Anonymous
at 19:15 17/6/2004
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i like intel processors simply because they dont burn out like my old AMD's. errrbody is a fanboy!!INTeL RULZ!!!!
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Lord-SMX
at 19:7 17/6/2004
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"yea the P4 3.4 EE was faster than the FX chips till the new 939...but what about the full 1ghz clockspeed the FX-53 lacks??"I think that amd now has a very good trump card. When Intel gets close to their Athlon64 bit they'll just boost up the clock by 1ghz and guess what. AMD will be even further ahead of intel :) go AMD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Anonymous
at 15:0 17/6/2004
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yea prices would me up over intel (for once) but if the performance is gonna b like 70% better for say $100 would u buy it? thats meant 2 b $100 over the intel product
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Anonymous
at 14:59 17/6/2004
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has ne1 noticed that theres is no complete fanboyz in here??its scary we should have seen bout 30 of these intel rulz over the amd faggot intel rulz over the amd faggot intel rulz over the amd faggot or amd rulz over the amd faggot amd rulz over the amd faggot amd rulz over the amd faggot this is got me worried... im ssccarred mommy... hold me mommy LOL bout time ppl matured
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Anonymous
at 14:56 17/6/2004
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dual core gfx cards wud kick assthats what the XGI gfx cards r and voodoo was in the middle of doin it when they went bankrupt. they only reason XGI is not beatin radion is this. each core has 128mb memory 2 itself the core speed is way below that of ati but they think that 2 cores double the speed not so. if they had both cores runnin the same speed it would leave ati in the dust.
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Anonymous
at 14:52 17/6/2004
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the xeon isnt 64-bit but intel did have a 64 bit chip a while back, but the price was to high and the gains werent enough to justify producing for the mainstream PCs.As for the P4 EE, yes it is fast than the fx-51 and the 53 but the new 939 fx 53 owns at everything intel 64bit was never reliable as said b4, if they did have a solid cpu then y r they still stuffin round with itanium? yea the P4 3.4 EE was faster than the FX chips till the new 939...but what about the full 1ghz clockspeed the FX-53 lacks?? if amd is beatin intel now than imagine what would happen if they were runnin the clock speed and cache the same as intel?? yea prices would me up over intel (for once) but if the performance is gonna b like 70% better for say $100 would u buy it?
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Anonymous
at 14:31 17/6/2004
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AMD all the baby
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Anonymous
at 12:33 17/6/2004
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sempron replaces duron, EE is fast in some stuff, only game its faster than the AMD equivilent is Quake 3, but if your gettin 400FPS+ what difference does it really make? duel core probably wont have heat issues, the die size will be twice as big so more surface area can be cooled so it should be alright, also they will be about 1.5/1.75x more expensive than single cores, which is understandable because its like buying two CPU's on one block of ceramic, once it becomes mainstream to have dual core CPU's i think games will take advantage of it, having AI run through 1 CPU and other stuff on the other cpu, would increase performance a lot, dual core gfx cards wud kick ass tho :P, have 1 chip for anti aising/Ansitropic filtering, and have the other chip deal with the rest of the gfx data
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Anonymous
at 11:57 17/6/2004
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the p4 EE is fast, but holy f**k its a horrible VALUE, thats the word intel needs to learn. VALUE>.
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al uk
at 11:14 17/6/2004
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i think it would b good 4 P 0 rn
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Anonymous
at 11:3 17/6/2004
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Hell yeah they are. Intel is getting their ass handed to em. AMD ran them over with 64 bit, now they're gonna back over them with dual core. AMD has always been the best bang for your buck.Extreme edition is crap. Didn't the prescott outperform or match it with a 16 l1 and a 1024 l2? Northwood to prescott is under 100 bucks difference right? What is it for an EE 680?
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BoB
at 3:11 17/6/2004
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Intel Are getting their ass kicked now and the AMD64 hasn't lost yet NO games have been made 64bit, win xp 64bit is not done yet.. We'll Just Have to wait for Far Cry 64bit and Xp64, damn that sounds like a nintendo game.. Intel Is NEVER going to catch up, Nvidia Will,, give them a break go and have a look at what they are doin to the Xbox 2, Sony sux balls
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damion
at 22:0 16/6/2004
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I believe intels 64 bit server chip was the itanium. It was crap though. The only interesting thing is that when intel releases its dual core chips, if it has hyperthreading then it will be recognized as 4 chips actually. Amd is great though, you always get better performance per dollar.
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lil nut sac
at 21:18 16/6/2004
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i overclocked my P1 133mhz to a 12,000GHZ.It has like 10 fans all around it, 5 heatstinks and a air conditioner close to it and it goes fast as f**k and it owned the new AMD 64bit FX 51 and 53.I also had to make my own tech shit so it can be 128bit.Owned
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Anonymous
at 20:10 16/6/2004
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the xeon isnt 64-bit but intel did have a 64 bit chip a while back, but the price was to high and the gains werent enough to justify producing for the mainstream PCs.As for the P4 EE, yes it is fast than the fx-51 and the 53 but the new 939 fx 53 owns at everything
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Anonymous
at 19:56 16/6/2004
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AMD all the way! bring on the competition
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Lord-SMX
at 19:12 16/6/2004
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Yo but how much do u think this chip's gonna cost. $1500 to $2000 probably. AND THE P4EE is a POS. and isn't the xeon 64 bit?
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Lord-SMX
at 19:11 16/6/2004
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Yo is this the Sempron chip that amd was talking about making. Look that the previous AMD article in Megagames hardware. ?????
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Nick
at 18:38 16/6/2004
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All i have to say to the pricks who think a P4 EE is betta than a AMD 64bit FX 51 or 53 is check out these benchmark results.www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=46&type=expert&pid=9 Owned Also Multi apps hyper threading cussed down by AMD, beats it in benchmarks check da link. Intel going down.
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yogi
at 17:44 16/6/2004
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no worry about the cooling system, Apple already invented a liquid cooling system that looks like a car engine's carburettor.
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Anonymous
at 15:6 16/6/2004
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this is great just wat i want from all my demanding 3d softwares AMD RULES! i'm tired of my P4 2.8ghz!!!!!!
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damion
at 14:58 16/6/2004
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Sexy. Can't wait. Intel is worthless when it comes to games. And when 64-bit operating systems and apps become more common, even stock 64bit processors will see a performance boost.
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Anonymous
at 14:43 16/6/2004
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yes the "Stock" 64bit lost 2 EE yet the FX-51 and FX-53 whooped the shit outta it, the intels r only good for multimedia use and if thats all u do fine, get away from this site coz only gamers r ment 2 b arguein like sissies girls here thank u what bout the 3800+? thats upo2 the performance of the fx51 with half the cache?
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Anonymous
at 14:40 16/6/2004
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Anonymous at 5:45 16/6/2004 if the processor is dual core and performs much faster than a single core than AMD is going to lower the clock seed like usual havinf dual core means its basically duel processor, or as intel would call it, hyperthreadng, yes i know HT is not dual core but it makes it act like 1
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Anonymous
at 14:37 16/6/2004
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Anonymous at 8:27 16/6/2004 aargh... I think AMD launched this dual core processor as a direct effect of their lost against Intel Extreme Edition.AMD 64 unexpectedly lost to Intel Extreme Edition...remember that.. Low price is the most important thing,AMD 64 still very expensive! not very expensive in Oz, bout $10 more than 3.2 yes the "Stock" 64bit lost 2 EE yet the FX-51 and FX-53 whooped the shit outta it, the intels r only good for multimedia use and if thats all u do fine, get away from this site coz only gamers r ment 2 b arguein like sissies girls here thank u
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Anonymous
at 14:34 16/6/2004
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intel owns, but an intel extreme is an overclocked over priced xeon. do some reserch and ull see not so..the xeon can b found in 3.2ghz and will come in higher speeds, the EE is 2mb cache while the xeon is still 512k, xeon is 400fsb while the EE is 800fsb, xeons r made 4 dual processin power and r shit for gamin where the EE is great for gamin, do some lookin urself and ull c, how do i know this, i have the money and the recourses 2 own both proc in seperate systems.
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dipshits
at 10:18 16/6/2004
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Hey Dipshit, Intel Extreme Edition is also $500+ more expensive. prick. and the AMD65 FX-53 kicks the shit out of it. f**kstick.
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Anonymous
at 9:50 16/6/2004
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intel owns, but an intel extreme is an overclocked over priced xeon. do some reserch and ull see
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Anonymous
at 8:27 16/6/2004
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aargh...I think AMD launched this dual core processor as a direct effect of their lost against Intel Extreme Edition. AMD 64 unexpectedly lost to Intel Extreme Edition...remember that.. Low price is the most important thing,AMD 64 still very expensive!
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Anonymous
at 5:59 16/6/2004
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u havent seen any game supporting dual processors ??? wtf ?? ever heard of quake and UT ??
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Anonymous
at 5:45 16/6/2004
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if the processor is dual core and performs much faster than a single core than AMD is going to lower the clock seed like usual
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Anonymous
at 5:44 16/6/2004
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dual core has more impact on the multitasking applications but games dont gain much from dual core maybe 1%-5% tops of course if u play a game while converting a video its goin to be a great increase in perforpance over a single athlon64. Its just like intel hyper threading which they had since 2000 it dont gain any performance unless the application supports it.I havent seen any games that support hyper-threading or dual processors.
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anon
at 4:11 16/6/2004
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Everybody is gonna need some serious cooling to cool this baby down! Prometias all round i think!! I cant see the usual hsink and fan design being efficient enough for dual core! It only just manages single core!
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City of Dis
at 3:21 16/6/2004
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From what i hear their just making a dual core cpu, i'm not sure if this will speed up games :\Intel was going to make Tejas dual cored before they canned the project cos of heat probs.
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City of Dis
at 2:2 16/6/2004
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Hahahaha, nvidia and intel only started to get wooped when i became thier supporter, go me!
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Anonymous
at 1:27 16/6/2004
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This processor sounds awesome for 3d apps! Just what I was waiting for. :D
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Anonymous
at 0:35 16/6/2004
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Nice indeed, hope the prices will be low, hope intel catches up to help them get low !
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c**k lover
at 0:12 16/6/2004
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6th post YEAH BOOYA BITCHES
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Dragon X
at 19:44 15/6/2004
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in such short peroid of time AMD managed to kick the hell out of Intel really hard. I think AMD whent so far now that Intel wont be able to catch up...
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MiNaTeK
at 18:27 15/6/2004
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AMD will kick ass every thing ..intel goes down...
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43v3r
at 17:40 15/6/2004
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AMD really are on the ball these days...Intel looks like they are thinking to go dual-core, but AMD is already there. -- plus 64bit.Woot!!
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nick
at 17:24 15/6/2004
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u shit sec post.cool AMD are pushing intel more this will be fun.
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boomer
at 16:26 15/6/2004
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1st post yay!!!!!
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